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T O P I C R E V I E WAmi AnneI know. It is so embarrassing I have not learned to post charts. If you want to study it with me( and anyone else who is interested) post it with asteroids. You know what is so funny? Princess Di and I have trined moons.I have been fascinated with 2 woman such that I have read every biography--Jackie and Princess Di. Here, I have the most intimate aspect there is--moon trine moon with Princess Di.Anyway,I am not done with Princess Di. I need to do charts slowly. Thanks Ceri if you care to post it. If not, no problem ------------------Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/CeridwenI haven`t really given much thought to Jackie O.But I am going to post her chart in a bit.Ami AnneThanks CeriI am utterly fascinated with her.I know she is a Scorpio ASC which she seems to embody and a Gemini Venus, the same. She has a lot in Leo. She may be a Leo Sun.------------------Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/CeridwenSeriously, the synastry and composite with John F Kennedy plus her natal chart, especially relating to the name Kennedy gives me major goosebumps.her natal: synastry with her inside: their composite: Ami AnneFantastic CeriThank you so very very much for that!Ami AnneI have never seen Kaali conj Nessus before. Why did you get goosebumps Ceri? Was it the Kennedy name conjunct Karma?------------------Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/Ami AnneIQ What do you make of nessus conj Kaali? ------------------Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/CeridwenSeveral things actually:her natal:------------° Grand Cross of:Nessus/Kaali - Child - Pluto - Lilith° Grand trine of:KennedyKarma - Juno - Lucifer° NN conjunct DESC conjunct Chiron (not necessarily "bad", but significant anyway)° Kennedy conjunct Karma close to SIRIUS, and both being square ATROPOS° also the fact that KENNEDY is conjunct Pluto as well as Karmasynastry:---------° DNA conjunct DNA exact° Karma and Kennedy conjunct Karma° DESC and NN conjunct Mars and Mercury° Kaali and Nessus conjunct Kennedy and DESC° Sun conjunct LUcifer and Neptunecomposite------------° DNA conjunct ATROPOS square KENNEDY° Sun-Moon-conjunction exact° Pluto conjunct Karma, square Saturn and trine Kaali and Lilith-conjunction° Karma square NessusThe DSC is just ONE minute away from the Sabian: A WIDOW AT AN OPEN GRAVE(and there is the possibility that one birthdate is not correct to the minute)Ami AnneI am getting such bad chills lol------------------Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/teaselHow about JFK Jr.? Is his birth time available? I can't google right now (computer messing up).athenegoddessthe name thing is cool. in my synastry we have the same thing. my last name asteroid, his last name asteroid, karma, and amor are all conjunct in his chart.Ami AnneJFK had Deja conj his venus. Very interesting as he was a profligate.------------------Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/Ami AnneWhat does DNA conj DNA mean Ceri?------------------Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/Ceridwen DNA is the genetic code, so such a tight conjunction could mean that their genetic code was similiar. Ami AnneWOW--they had an age difference too------------------Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/Ami AnneDo Jewish people have a certain DNA picture in the charts Ceri or IQ?------------------Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/CeridwenI don`t think that all Jewish people have the same picture in their charts.It is like you can`t see in a chart if it belongs to a woman or man or child or animal.There often is an interesting link between family members concerning the asteroid DNA though. (but then there usually is a connection through the Moons or angles as well; we often "inherit" certain astrological signatures, which probably would explain "associated karma" as well;for example: My Dad has Sun, Venus and Jupiter in Aquarius; My Mum has Uranus in 1st house tightly sextile her Venus and Mars; I have Moon in Aquarius; my middle brother has ASC in Aquarius; my youngest brother has Mercury in Aquarius and Uranus conjunct Moon and Jupiter in Sag - that is what i mean with "astrological inheritance")s4ndnot much on jackie but i thought this was interesting when i was reading about it a few days ago. quote:No other public person better embodies the story of the nodes (in all their versions of love and attachment) than John F. Kennedy. If you’re not familiar with his natal chart, take a look, and note his North Node is 12 CAP 29. (Birth data: May 29, 1917, 3 P.M. E.S.T., Brookline, MA, 71W08 42N20). Let’s start a generation back. Papa Joe Kennedy (9/6/1888) is a double Virgo (hold that in the back of your mind) with the North Node at 28 CAN 02, very closely conjunct JFK’s natal Saturn and MC. Mama Rose (7/22/1890) has a Sun-Mercury conjunction at 29 CAN 44, and a North Node at 21 GEM 49, not far from JFK’s Venus. Looking at siblings ties, Robert Kennedy (11/20/25) has the Moon on the South Node at 28 CAP 27; a natal MC at 19 CAP 20, Jupiter at 20 CAP 10, Venus at 15 CAP 04, and Pluto at 14 CAN 30 Rx. Obviously, this runs across his older brother’s nodal axis and connects with the IC/MC. Brother Ted (2/22/32) has a natal Saturn at 29 CAP 50 and Pluto at 20 CAN 16 Rx, as well as an Ascendant at 10 CAP 43, conjunct JFK’s North Node. Talk about family ties! And talk about family karma! Being of relatively the same generation, the natal Pluto of Jackie Kennedy (7/28/29) falls within orb of these sensitive degrees. However, looking at her North Node at 17 TA 13 (which is tightly conjunct her Descendant), we see it aligns closely with JFK’s Mars and Placidus 8th house cusp. (His Mercury and Jupiter, by the way, are not far off from this conjunction too). Moving to the next generation, John Kennedy Jr. (11/25/60) has natal Mars at 18 CAN 29 Rx opposite Saturn at 15 CAP 34. Also in Capricorn are Venus (11 CAP 54) and Jupiter (5 CAP 50) and all are conjunct his father’s North Node. The chart of Lyndon Baines Johnson (8/27/08) should also be taken into consideration since JFK could not have won the election without his alliance. LBJ (ah, another double Virgo, just like Papa Joe) has a South Node at 1 CAN 48, in close conjunction to JFK’s Pluto. More powerfully, however, has natal Neptune (16 CAN 20) conjunct Venus (19 CAN 17) and both are in opposition to Uranus (13 CAP 13 Rx), obviously running across JFK’s nodal axis and not far from his MC/IC! The Sun of Richard Nixon (1/9/13) is 19 CAP 14, a few degrees from JFK’s North Node, and if you haven’t already turned to your ephemeris for some timing indicators, JFK won the election when transiting Saturn was about 14 CAP, Jupiter was 2 CAP, and Mars was just about to turn retrograde at 18 CAN. His inauguration took place with Jupiter and Saturn closer to their conjunction and Mars had moved to the cardinal degree. Also, the full moon of January 1, 1961, took place at 11 CAN 19! Who says astrology doesn’t work? By now, you must be digging up the chart of Marilyn Monroe (6/1/26). Whether you believe Marilyn and JFK really did it, whether she also did it with Bobby, and whether she was killed by the Mafia, by pills or by the Collective, their legacies are forever entwined in the American psyche. So, how are they linked by the Nodes? MM’s North Node is 18 CAN 16, sitting between JFK’s MC and South Node, which is also less than a degree off her Placidus 12th house cusp and Pluto at 13 CAN 24, as though anything else needed to be said! And perhaps what makes JFK (as well as the entire Kennedy Family) so fascinatingly prominent in the American psyche, in the first place, is the close conjunction between his South Node and the US Sun at 12 CAN 46 (or 13 CAN 20, if you use the “other” chart). Our North Node, by the way, is 7 LEO 37, just a little off from a conjunction to his 10th house Neptune, which explains our idolization of him. One more interesting connection of the nodes of love is between JFK’s South Node and Bill Clinton’s MC at 5 CAN 58, exemplifying the “hero worship.” (Bill Clinton’s birth date is 8/19/46). Conversely, Bill’s North Node at 17 GEM 16 and Uranus at 21 GEM 09 is in close conjunction to JFK’s chart ruler, Venus, and his Placidus 9th house cusp (the house of heroes, mentors and inspiration). Furthermore, when Bill’s chart is relocated to Washington, DC, his wheel is within two degrees of being the same as JFK! And for those who just can’t get enough of the nodes, ironically, the transiting Mars in Bill Clinton’s Inauguration Chart was at 12 CAN 55 Rx, just minutes away from JFK’s South Node and not that far from the Mars in Kennedy’s aforementioned Inauguration Chart. The one obvious omission of nodal connections with JFK is Lee Harvey Oswald (10/18/39), and I think we really should see a prominent connection despite whatever other evident synastry ties there are. One can easily make a case for his Moon to fall in the early to middle degrees of Capricorn, coming within conjunction of JFK’s North Node; but since I am not one to jump to astrological conclusions, I encourage some eager mundane astrologer on a lonely Saturday night to try a rectification on Oswald’s chart. http://www.astrojohn.com/nodesoflove.html Ami Anne quote:Originally posted by s4nd:not much on jackie but i thought this was interesting when i was reading about it a few days ago. [QUOTE]No other public person better embodies the story of the nodes (in all their versions of love and attachment) than John F. Kennedy. If you’re not familiar with his natal chart, take a look, and note his North Node is 12 CAP 29. (Birth data: May 29, 1917, 3 P.M. E.S.T., Brookline, MA, 71W08 42N20). Let’s start a generation back. Papa Joe Kennedy (9/6/1888) is a double Virgo (hold that in the back of your mind) with the North Node at 28 CAN 02, very closely conjunct JFK’s natal Saturn and MC. Mama Rose (7/22/1890) has a Sun-Mercury conjunction at 29 CAN 44, and a North Node at 21 GEM 49, not far from JFK’s Venus. Looking at siblings ties, Robert Kennedy (11/20/25) has the Moon on the South Node at 28 CAP 27; a natal MC at 19 CAP 20, Jupiter at 20 CAP 10, Venus at 15 CAP 04, and Pluto at 14 CAN 30 Rx. Obviously, this runs across his older brother’s nodal axis and connects with the IC/MC. Brother Ted (2/22/32) has a natal Saturn at 29 CAP 50 and Pluto at 20 CAN 16 Rx, as well as an Ascendant at 10 CAP 43, conjunct JFK’s North Node. Talk about family ties! And talk about family karma! Being of relatively the same generation, the natal Pluto of Jackie Kennedy (7/28/29) falls within orb of these sensitive degrees. However, looking at her North Node at 17 TA 13 (which is tightly conjunct her Descendant), we see it aligns closely with JFK’s Mars and Placidus 8th house cusp. (His Mercury and Jupiter, by the way, are not far off from this conjunction too). Moving to the next generation, John Kennedy Jr. (11/25/60) has natal Mars at 18 CAN 29 Rx opposite Saturn at 15 CAP 34. Also in Capricorn are Venus (11 CAP 54) and Jupiter (5 CAP 50) and all are conjunct his father’s North Node. The chart of Lyndon Baines Johnson (8/27/08) should also be taken into consideration since JFK could not have won the election without his alliance. LBJ (ah, another double Virgo, just like Papa Joe) has a South Node at 1 CAN 48, in close conjunction to JFK’s Pluto. More powerfully, however, has natal Neptune (16 CAN 20) conjunct Venus (19 CAN 17) and both are in opposition to Uranus (13 CAP 13 Rx), obviously running across JFK’s nodal axis and not far from his MC/IC! The Sun of Richard Nixon (1/9/13) is 19 CAP 14, a few degrees from JFK’s North Node, and if you haven’t already turned to your ephemeris for some timing indicators, JFK won the election when transiting Saturn was about 14 CAP, Jupiter was 2 CAP, and Mars was just about to turn retrograde at 18 CAN. His inauguration took place with Jupiter and Saturn closer to their conjunction and Mars had moved to the cardinal degree. Also, the full moon of January 1, 1961, took place at 11 CAN 19! Who says astrology doesn’t work? By now, you must be digging up the chart of Marilyn Monroe (6/1/26). Whether you believe Marilyn and JFK really did it, whether she also did it with Bobby, and whether she was killed by the Mafia, by pills or by the Collective, their legacies are forever entwined in the American psyche. So, how are they linked by the Nodes? MM’s North Node is 18 CAN 16, sitting between JFK’s MC and South Node, which is also less than a degree off her Placidus 12th house cusp and Pluto at 13 CAN 24, as though anything else needed to be said! And perhaps what makes JFK (as well as the entire Kennedy Family) so fascinatingly prominent in the American psyche, in the first place, is the close conjunction between his South Node and the US Sun at 12 CAN 46 (or 13 CAN 20, if you use the “other” chart). Our North Node, by the way, is 7 LEO 37, just a little off from a conjunction to his 10th house Neptune, which explains our idolization of him. One more interesting connection of the nodes of love is between JFK’s South Node and Bill Clinton’s MC at 5 CAN 58, exemplifying the “hero worship.” (Bill Clinton’s birth date is 8/19/46). Conversely, Bill’s North Node at 17 GEM 16 and Uranus at 21 GEM 09 is in close conjunction to JFK’s chart ruler, Venus, and his Placidus 9th house cusp (the house of heroes, mentors and inspiration). Furthermore, when Bill’s chart is relocated to Washington, DC, his wheel is within two degrees of being the same as JFK! And for those who just can’t get enough of the nodes, ironically, the transiting Mars in Bill Clinton’s Inauguration Chart was at 12 CAN 55 Rx, just minutes away from JFK’s South Node and not that far from the Mars in Kennedy’s aforementioned Inauguration Chart. The one obvious omission of nodal connections with JFK is Lee Harvey Oswald (10/18/39), and I think we really should see a prominent connection despite whatever other evident synastry ties there are. One can easily make a case for his Moon to fall in the early to middle degrees of Capricorn, coming within conjunction of JFK’s North Node; but since I am not one to jump to astrological conclusions, I encourage some eager mundane astrologer on a lonely Saturday night to try a rectification on Oswald’s chart. http://www.astrojohn.com/nodesoflove.html [/QUOTE]------------------Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/s4nddoh sorry guys just noticed this was asteroids! i'll erase it if it's a bother..i just noticed i have kennedy on my neptune exact and sextile my pluto/asc. i do look up to jfk lol! he's my fav cancer mc. CeridwenNo, no, don`t erase it. It is valuable information! Also, isn`t it interesting that Marilyn`s Pluto was conjunct his Karma so exactly? On his SN?Plus her 12th house cusp was there as well?For a believer in past lives this is simply flabbergasting information. But even without that past-life-twist it clearly describes a story full of powerful undercurrents. Almost like a script being acted out.EDIT:And Jackie`s Karma is there as well!Ami AnneNo Sand SWeetieOne cannot totally separate asteroids from planets. I asked Randall about this and he agreed. I mean, can we separate our heart from our lungs ------------------Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/Ami AnneI am not done with this Ceri. I got waylaid doing other things.------------------Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
Anyway,I am not done with Princess Di. I need to do charts slowly. Thanks Ceri if you care to post it. If not, no problem
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her natal:
synastry with her inside:
their composite:
her natal:------------
° Grand Cross of:Nessus/Kaali - Child - Pluto - Lilith
° Grand trine of:KennedyKarma - Juno - Lucifer
° NN conjunct DESC conjunct Chiron (not necessarily "bad", but significant anyway)
° Kennedy conjunct Karma close to SIRIUS, and both being square ATROPOS
° also the fact that KENNEDY is conjunct Pluto as well as Karma
synastry:---------° DNA conjunct DNA exact° Karma and Kennedy conjunct Karma° DESC and NN conjunct Mars and Mercury° Kaali and Nessus conjunct Kennedy and DESC° Sun conjunct LUcifer and Neptune
composite------------° DNA conjunct ATROPOS square KENNEDY° Sun-Moon-conjunction exact° Pluto conjunct Karma, square Saturn and trine Kaali and Lilith-conjunction° Karma square Nessus
The DSC is just ONE minute away from the Sabian: A WIDOW AT AN OPEN GRAVE(and there is the possibility that one birthdate is not correct to the minute)
DNA is the genetic code, so such a tight conjunction could mean that their genetic code was similiar.
There often is an interesting link between family members concerning the asteroid DNA though. (but then there usually is a connection through the Moons or angles as well; we often "inherit" certain astrological signatures, which probably would explain "associated karma" as well;for example: My Dad has Sun, Venus and Jupiter in Aquarius; My Mum has Uranus in 1st house tightly sextile her Venus and Mars; I have Moon in Aquarius; my middle brother has ASC in Aquarius; my youngest brother has Mercury in Aquarius and Uranus conjunct Moon and Jupiter in Sag - that is what i mean with "astrological inheritance")
quote:No other public person better embodies the story of the nodes (in all their versions of love and attachment) than John F. Kennedy. If you’re not familiar with his natal chart, take a look, and note his North Node is 12 CAP 29. (Birth data: May 29, 1917, 3 P.M. E.S.T., Brookline, MA, 71W08 42N20). Let’s start a generation back. Papa Joe Kennedy (9/6/1888) is a double Virgo (hold that in the back of your mind) with the North Node at 28 CAN 02, very closely conjunct JFK’s natal Saturn and MC. Mama Rose (7/22/1890) has a Sun-Mercury conjunction at 29 CAN 44, and a North Node at 21 GEM 49, not far from JFK’s Venus. Looking at siblings ties, Robert Kennedy (11/20/25) has the Moon on the South Node at 28 CAP 27; a natal MC at 19 CAP 20, Jupiter at 20 CAP 10, Venus at 15 CAP 04, and Pluto at 14 CAN 30 Rx. Obviously, this runs across his older brother’s nodal axis and connects with the IC/MC. Brother Ted (2/22/32) has a natal Saturn at 29 CAP 50 and Pluto at 20 CAN 16 Rx, as well as an Ascendant at 10 CAP 43, conjunct JFK’s North Node. Talk about family ties! And talk about family karma! Being of relatively the same generation, the natal Pluto of Jackie Kennedy (7/28/29) falls within orb of these sensitive degrees. However, looking at her North Node at 17 TA 13 (which is tightly conjunct her Descendant), we see it aligns closely with JFK’s Mars and Placidus 8th house cusp. (His Mercury and Jupiter, by the way, are not far off from this conjunction too). Moving to the next generation, John Kennedy Jr. (11/25/60) has natal Mars at 18 CAN 29 Rx opposite Saturn at 15 CAP 34. Also in Capricorn are Venus (11 CAP 54) and Jupiter (5 CAP 50) and all are conjunct his father’s North Node. The chart of Lyndon Baines Johnson (8/27/08) should also be taken into consideration since JFK could not have won the election without his alliance. LBJ (ah, another double Virgo, just like Papa Joe) has a South Node at 1 CAN 48, in close conjunction to JFK’s Pluto. More powerfully, however, has natal Neptune (16 CAN 20) conjunct Venus (19 CAN 17) and both are in opposition to Uranus (13 CAP 13 Rx), obviously running across JFK’s nodal axis and not far from his MC/IC! The Sun of Richard Nixon (1/9/13) is 19 CAP 14, a few degrees from JFK’s North Node, and if you haven’t already turned to your ephemeris for some timing indicators, JFK won the election when transiting Saturn was about 14 CAP, Jupiter was 2 CAP, and Mars was just about to turn retrograde at 18 CAN. His inauguration took place with Jupiter and Saturn closer to their conjunction and Mars had moved to the cardinal degree. Also, the full moon of January 1, 1961, took place at 11 CAN 19! Who says astrology doesn’t work? By now, you must be digging up the chart of Marilyn Monroe (6/1/26). Whether you believe Marilyn and JFK really did it, whether she also did it with Bobby, and whether she was killed by the Mafia, by pills or by the Collective, their legacies are forever entwined in the American psyche. So, how are they linked by the Nodes? MM’s North Node is 18 CAN 16, sitting between JFK’s MC and South Node, which is also less than a degree off her Placidus 12th house cusp and Pluto at 13 CAN 24, as though anything else needed to be said! And perhaps what makes JFK (as well as the entire Kennedy Family) so fascinatingly prominent in the American psyche, in the first place, is the close conjunction between his South Node and the US Sun at 12 CAN 46 (or 13 CAN 20, if you use the “other” chart). Our North Node, by the way, is 7 LEO 37, just a little off from a conjunction to his 10th house Neptune, which explains our idolization of him. One more interesting connection of the nodes of love is between JFK’s South Node and Bill Clinton’s MC at 5 CAN 58, exemplifying the “hero worship.” (Bill Clinton’s birth date is 8/19/46). Conversely, Bill’s North Node at 17 GEM 16 and Uranus at 21 GEM 09 is in close conjunction to JFK’s chart ruler, Venus, and his Placidus 9th house cusp (the house of heroes, mentors and inspiration). Furthermore, when Bill’s chart is relocated to Washington, DC, his wheel is within two degrees of being the same as JFK! And for those who just can’t get enough of the nodes, ironically, the transiting Mars in Bill Clinton’s Inauguration Chart was at 12 CAN 55 Rx, just minutes away from JFK’s South Node and not that far from the Mars in Kennedy’s aforementioned Inauguration Chart. The one obvious omission of nodal connections with JFK is Lee Harvey Oswald (10/18/39), and I think we really should see a prominent connection despite whatever other evident synastry ties there are. One can easily make a case for his Moon to fall in the early to middle degrees of Capricorn, coming within conjunction of JFK’s North Node; but since I am not one to jump to astrological conclusions, I encourage some eager mundane astrologer on a lonely Saturday night to try a rectification on Oswald’s chart.
Let’s start a generation back. Papa Joe Kennedy (9/6/1888) is a double Virgo (hold that in the back of your mind) with the North Node at 28 CAN 02, very closely conjunct JFK’s natal Saturn and MC. Mama Rose (7/22/1890) has a Sun-Mercury conjunction at 29 CAN 44, and a North Node at 21 GEM 49, not far from JFK’s Venus.
Looking at siblings ties, Robert Kennedy (11/20/25) has the Moon on the South Node at 28 CAP 27; a natal MC at 19 CAP 20, Jupiter at 20 CAP 10, Venus at 15 CAP 04, and Pluto at 14 CAN 30 Rx. Obviously, this runs across his older brother’s nodal axis and connects with the IC/MC. Brother Ted (2/22/32) has a natal Saturn at 29 CAP 50 and Pluto at 20 CAN 16 Rx, as well as an Ascendant at 10 CAP 43, conjunct JFK’s North Node. Talk about family ties! And talk about family karma!
Being of relatively the same generation, the natal Pluto of Jackie Kennedy (7/28/29) falls within orb of these sensitive degrees. However, looking at her North Node at 17 TA 13 (which is tightly conjunct her Descendant), we see it aligns closely with JFK’s Mars and Placidus 8th house cusp. (His Mercury and Jupiter, by the way, are not far off from this conjunction too).
Moving to the next generation, John Kennedy Jr. (11/25/60) has natal Mars at 18 CAN 29 Rx opposite Saturn at 15 CAP 34. Also in Capricorn are Venus (11 CAP 54) and Jupiter (5 CAP 50) and all are conjunct his father’s North Node.
The chart of Lyndon Baines Johnson (8/27/08) should also be taken into consideration since JFK could not have won the election without his alliance. LBJ (ah, another double Virgo, just like Papa Joe) has a South Node at 1 CAN 48, in close conjunction to JFK’s Pluto. More powerfully, however, has natal Neptune (16 CAN 20) conjunct Venus (19 CAN 17) and both are in opposition to Uranus (13 CAP 13 Rx), obviously running across JFK’s nodal axis and not far from his MC/IC!
The Sun of Richard Nixon (1/9/13) is 19 CAP 14, a few degrees from JFK’s North Node, and if you haven’t already turned to your ephemeris for some timing indicators, JFK won the election when transiting Saturn was about 14 CAP, Jupiter was 2 CAP, and Mars was just about to turn retrograde at 18 CAN. His inauguration took place with Jupiter and Saturn closer to their conjunction and Mars had moved to the cardinal degree. Also, the full moon of January 1, 1961, took place at 11 CAN 19! Who says astrology doesn’t work? By now, you must be digging up the chart of Marilyn Monroe (6/1/26). Whether you believe Marilyn and JFK really did it, whether she also did it with Bobby, and whether she was killed by the Mafia, by pills or by the Collective, their legacies are forever entwined in the American psyche. So, how are they linked by the Nodes? MM’s North Node is 18 CAN 16, sitting between JFK’s MC and South Node, which is also less than a degree off her Placidus 12th house cusp and Pluto at 13 CAN 24, as though anything else needed to be said!
And perhaps what makes JFK (as well as the entire Kennedy Family) so fascinatingly prominent in the American psyche, in the first place, is the close conjunction between his South Node and the US Sun at 12 CAN 46 (or 13 CAN 20, if you use the “other” chart). Our North Node, by the way, is 7 LEO 37, just a little off from a conjunction to his 10th house Neptune, which explains our idolization of him.
One more interesting connection of the nodes of love is between JFK’s South Node and Bill Clinton’s MC at 5 CAN 58, exemplifying the “hero worship.” (Bill Clinton’s birth date is 8/19/46). Conversely, Bill’s North Node at 17 GEM 16 and Uranus at 21 GEM 09 is in close conjunction to JFK’s chart ruler, Venus, and his Placidus 9th house cusp (the house of heroes, mentors and inspiration). Furthermore, when Bill’s chart is relocated to Washington, DC, his wheel is within two degrees of being the same as JFK! And for those who just can’t get enough of the nodes, ironically, the transiting Mars in Bill Clinton’s Inauguration Chart was at 12 CAN 55 Rx, just minutes away from JFK’s South Node and not that far from the Mars in Kennedy’s aforementioned Inauguration Chart.
The one obvious omission of nodal connections with JFK is Lee Harvey Oswald (10/18/39), and I think we really should see a prominent connection despite whatever other evident synastry ties there are. One can easily make a case for his Moon to fall in the early to middle degrees of Capricorn, coming within conjunction of JFK’s North Node; but since I am not one to jump to astrological conclusions, I encourage some eager mundane astrologer on a lonely Saturday night to try a rectification on Oswald’s chart.
quote:Originally posted by s4nd:not much on jackie but i thought this was interesting when i was reading about it a few days ago. [QUOTE]No other public person better embodies the story of the nodes (in all their versions of love and attachment) than John F. Kennedy. If you’re not familiar with his natal chart, take a look, and note his North Node is 12 CAP 29. (Birth data: May 29, 1917, 3 P.M. E.S.T., Brookline, MA, 71W08 42N20). Let’s start a generation back. Papa Joe Kennedy (9/6/1888) is a double Virgo (hold that in the back of your mind) with the North Node at 28 CAN 02, very closely conjunct JFK’s natal Saturn and MC. Mama Rose (7/22/1890) has a Sun-Mercury conjunction at 29 CAN 44, and a North Node at 21 GEM 49, not far from JFK’s Venus. Looking at siblings ties, Robert Kennedy (11/20/25) has the Moon on the South Node at 28 CAP 27; a natal MC at 19 CAP 20, Jupiter at 20 CAP 10, Venus at 15 CAP 04, and Pluto at 14 CAN 30 Rx. Obviously, this runs across his older brother’s nodal axis and connects with the IC/MC. Brother Ted (2/22/32) has a natal Saturn at 29 CAP 50 and Pluto at 20 CAN 16 Rx, as well as an Ascendant at 10 CAP 43, conjunct JFK’s North Node. Talk about family ties! And talk about family karma! Being of relatively the same generation, the natal Pluto of Jackie Kennedy (7/28/29) falls within orb of these sensitive degrees. However, looking at her North Node at 17 TA 13 (which is tightly conjunct her Descendant), we see it aligns closely with JFK’s Mars and Placidus 8th house cusp. (His Mercury and Jupiter, by the way, are not far off from this conjunction too). Moving to the next generation, John Kennedy Jr. (11/25/60) has natal Mars at 18 CAN 29 Rx opposite Saturn at 15 CAP 34. Also in Capricorn are Venus (11 CAP 54) and Jupiter (5 CAP 50) and all are conjunct his father’s North Node. The chart of Lyndon Baines Johnson (8/27/08) should also be taken into consideration since JFK could not have won the election without his alliance. LBJ (ah, another double Virgo, just like Papa Joe) has a South Node at 1 CAN 48, in close conjunction to JFK’s Pluto. More powerfully, however, has natal Neptune (16 CAN 20) conjunct Venus (19 CAN 17) and both are in opposition to Uranus (13 CAP 13 Rx), obviously running across JFK’s nodal axis and not far from his MC/IC! The Sun of Richard Nixon (1/9/13) is 19 CAP 14, a few degrees from JFK’s North Node, and if you haven’t already turned to your ephemeris for some timing indicators, JFK won the election when transiting Saturn was about 14 CAP, Jupiter was 2 CAP, and Mars was just about to turn retrograde at 18 CAN. His inauguration took place with Jupiter and Saturn closer to their conjunction and Mars had moved to the cardinal degree. Also, the full moon of January 1, 1961, took place at 11 CAN 19! Who says astrology doesn’t work? By now, you must be digging up the chart of Marilyn Monroe (6/1/26). Whether you believe Marilyn and JFK really did it, whether she also did it with Bobby, and whether she was killed by the Mafia, by pills or by the Collective, their legacies are forever entwined in the American psyche. So, how are they linked by the Nodes? MM’s North Node is 18 CAN 16, sitting between JFK’s MC and South Node, which is also less than a degree off her Placidus 12th house cusp and Pluto at 13 CAN 24, as though anything else needed to be said! And perhaps what makes JFK (as well as the entire Kennedy Family) so fascinatingly prominent in the American psyche, in the first place, is the close conjunction between his South Node and the US Sun at 12 CAN 46 (or 13 CAN 20, if you use the “other” chart). Our North Node, by the way, is 7 LEO 37, just a little off from a conjunction to his 10th house Neptune, which explains our idolization of him. One more interesting connection of the nodes of love is between JFK’s South Node and Bill Clinton’s MC at 5 CAN 58, exemplifying the “hero worship.” (Bill Clinton’s birth date is 8/19/46). Conversely, Bill’s North Node at 17 GEM 16 and Uranus at 21 GEM 09 is in close conjunction to JFK’s chart ruler, Venus, and his Placidus 9th house cusp (the house of heroes, mentors and inspiration). Furthermore, when Bill’s chart is relocated to Washington, DC, his wheel is within two degrees of being the same as JFK! And for those who just can’t get enough of the nodes, ironically, the transiting Mars in Bill Clinton’s Inauguration Chart was at 12 CAN 55 Rx, just minutes away from JFK’s South Node and not that far from the Mars in Kennedy’s aforementioned Inauguration Chart. The one obvious omission of nodal connections with JFK is Lee Harvey Oswald (10/18/39), and I think we really should see a prominent connection despite whatever other evident synastry ties there are. One can easily make a case for his Moon to fall in the early to middle degrees of Capricorn, coming within conjunction of JFK’s North Node; but since I am not one to jump to astrological conclusions, I encourage some eager mundane astrologer on a lonely Saturday night to try a rectification on Oswald’s chart.
[QUOTE]No other public person better embodies the story of the nodes (in all their versions of love and attachment) than John F. Kennedy. If you’re not familiar with his natal chart, take a look, and note his North Node is 12 CAP 29. (Birth data: May 29, 1917, 3 P.M. E.S.T., Brookline, MA, 71W08 42N20).
i just noticed i have kennedy on my neptune exact and sextile my pluto/asc. i do look up to jfk lol! he's my fav cancer mc.
Also, isn`t it interesting that Marilyn`s Pluto was conjunct his Karma so exactly? On his SN?Plus her 12th house cusp was there as well?
For a believer in past lives this is simply flabbergasting information. But even without that past-life-twist it clearly describes a story full of powerful undercurrents. Almost like a script being acted out.
EDIT:And Jackie`s Karma is there as well!
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